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Post Link Posted: Tue Jan 07 2014 6:34 pm
Post subject: Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years.... Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better,
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Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years

www.thewire..../p....356785/

"I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and
national security issue over the past four decades,” former Defense
Secretary Robert Gates says of Vice President Joe Biden in his new
book coming out later this month. Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is
only slightly better, depicting an Obama administration with very
murky lines of communication on military issues.

Gates, as The New York Times notes in its review of Duty: Memoirs of a
Secretary at War, served under every president since Nixon, save Bill
Clinton. When President Obama took office in 2009, he (somewhat
controversially) decided that Gates would stay as defense secretary, a
position to which he was appointed by George W. Bush in 2006. (At that
confirmation hearing, Gates reportedly thought to himself, "What the
hell am I doing here? I have walked right into the middle of a
category-five shitstorm.")

According to the Times review and one in The Washington Post, Gates
wasn't particularly happy with either president. "In Duty," Bob
Woodward writes for the Post, "Gates describes his outwardly calm
demeanor as a facade. Underneath, he writes, he was frequently
'seething' and 'running out of patience on multiple fronts.'"

Gates apparently raises direct questions about Obama's handling of the
war he inherited. The former secretary was concerned, Woodward writes,
at both the Obama administration's tight grip on military policy as
well as its insecurity about what it should do. The Times indicates
that Gates faulted the Bush administration for its handling of the
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (before Gates arrived) and was
consistently frustrated by his exchanges with Obama's advisors,
especially Biden. From The Times:

Biden is accused of "poisoning the well" against the military
leadership. Thomas Donilon, initially Obama’s deputy national security
adviser, and then-Lt. Gen. Douglas E. Lute, the White House
coordinator for the wars, are described as regularly engaged in
"aggressive, suspicious, and sometimes condescending and insulting
questioning of our military leaders."

During one meeting in 2009, the micro-managing of the advisors nearly
prompted Gates to quit his position, in part given their tendency to
try and interrupt the chain of military command. Gates also describes
overhearing Hillary Clinton tell Obama that her opposition to the Iraq
War in 2008 was primarily motivated by politics — an assessment that
Gates says Obama generally agreed with. In the book, Gates says Obama
has integrity, but has glowing praise for Clinton, calling her "smart,
idealistic but pragmatic, tough-minded, indefatigable, funny" — and it
goes on.

The only part of government Gates actually liked, it seems, was the
military. The book "offers the familiar criticism of Congress and its
culture, describing it as 'truly ugly,'" Woodward writes. The Times
calls his assessment of members of Congress "stinging," quoting Gates
saying that "when they went into an open hearing, and the little red
light went on atop a television camera, it had the effect of a full
moon on a werewolf."

Just wait until they get the attention that comes with writing a
tell-all book.

**************

This sound like a interesting book.





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Post Link Posted: Wed Jan 08 2014 11:40 am
Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years.... Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better
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MattB+ wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2014, Gary Roselles was stupid - again:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB+ <Trdell1234@gmail.com
wrote:

Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40
Years

Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....

Obama also. Jan 2009 to April 2011.

"On December 1, 2008, President-elect Obama announced that Robert
Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during his
administration"


It's easy to say, "good job on shaming Gary Roselles, yet again", but
this is a very easy exercise. GOOD JOB.


Quote:
That alone should tell you something

Yes tells me you don't know many facts just rhetoric of the loony left
and racism.


I'm not sure where the racism is in Gary's stupid post, but he remains
USENET's 2nd most stupid poster this week.


Quote:
IDIOT


Yep, that is Gary Roselles.

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Post subject: Re: Two Obama sons arrested for fatal beating of 88-year-old white WWII veteran in Spokane
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In article <2utqc914chlild6dobdj499bbm0k5vduo8>
Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:
 
A second teenage boy was arrested early Monday in the fatal
beating of an 88-year-old World War II veteran outside a lounge
in Spokane, Wash., police said.

According to officials, the case began when calls came in to
police shortly after 8 p.m. Wednesday, with witnesses reporting
an assault outside Eagle’s Lodge, a popular gathering spot that
offers bingo, poker and pool.

Officers arriving on the scene found Delbert Belton inside his
car with serious head injuries. He was transported to a local
hospital, where he died, police said.

Monday’s arrest came several days after police released images
of two possible suspects in the beating, obtained from
surveillance video taken from local businesses.

One teenager was taken into custody around 10 p.m. Thursday, but
authorities had been searching for the second suspect until his
arrest around 3 a.m. Monday. In a statement, police said the
suspect was arrested “without incident” in a basement apartment
at 500 West Montgomery Ave. in Spokane.

News reports have named both suspects, but Los Angeles Times
policy is not to identify juveniles accused of crimes unless
they are being tried as adults.

A probable-cause affidavit has been filed with the Spokane
County Juvenile Court, requesting charges of first-degree murder
and first-degree robbery for the suspect arrested Thursday,
officials said. In the statement on the latest arrest, Spokane
police said the second suspect was taken into custody under the
same circumstances.

The statement said, “Several other people ... have been arrested
for rendering criminal assistance.” Spokane Police Chief Frank
Straub is expected to hold a news conference on the case later
Monday morning.

Meanwhile, the killing has stunned friends and family and sent
shock waves through the city. Belton served in the Army during
World War II and was wounded by gunfire in the Battle of
Okinawa. After completing his military service, he worked at an
aluminum plant for more than 30 years.

Friends called him "Shorty," and it was the company of his
friends that helped him cope with the death of his wife, Myrtle,
about six years ago, said Barbara Belton, his daughter-in-law.

She described his death as “horrendous” and said she has
struggled to make sense of his death.

For one thing, she said, he didn't look like a man of means, and
his car -- a 1994 Ford Contour -- was anything but flashy.

"He didn't dress fancy," she said. "Why these kids thought he
had some money, I don't know."

www.latimes..../n....eating-
second-suspect-20130826,0,1614211.story


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For all you assbags who thought voting for that racist jackoff
Obama twice was such a great idea, this man's death is your
legacy.

Remind the racists at the DOJ about this black on white crime
the American liberal biased media is attempting to obfuscate.

Email the Eric Holder ("report Zimmerman for racism" DOJ email
address) racist club at: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov.












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Post Link Posted: Wed Jan 08 2014 12:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks ==Just like MATTLOON and DUMBYA Bush.
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On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB <Trdell1234>
wrote:


Quote:
Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years


Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....

That alone should tell you something

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Post Link Posted: Wed Jan 08 2014 3:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks ==Just like MATTLOON and DUMBYA Bush.
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On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:08:10 -0700, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


Quote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB <Trdell1234@gmail.com
wrote:

Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years

Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....


Obama also. Jan 2009 to April 2011.

"On December 1, 2008, President-elect Obama announced that Robert
Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during his
administration"



Quote:

That alone should tell you something


Yes tells me you don't know many facts just rhetoric of the loony left
and racism.


Quote:

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Post Link Posted: Wed Jan 08 2014 4:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years.... Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC), "BeeSting Alergy"
<BeeSting_Alergy> wrote:


Quote:
MattB+ wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2014, Gary Roselles was stupid - again:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB+ <Trdell1234@gmail.com
wrote:

Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40
Years

Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....

Obama also. Jan 2009 to April 2011.

"On December 1, 2008, President-elect Obama announced that Robert
Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during his
administration"

It's easy to say, "good job on shaming Gary Roselles, yet again", but
this is a very easy exercise. GOOD JOB.

That alone should tell you something

Yes tells me you don't know many facts just rhetoric of the loony left
and racism.

I'm not sure where the racism is in Gary's stupid post, but he remains
USENET's 2nd most stupid poster this week.

IDIOT

Yep, that is Gary Roselles.


OK Hope this doesn't move me up in the ratings but who is in first
place?



Quote:

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Post Link Posted: Thu Jan 09 2014 3:52 am
Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years.... Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better
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MattB+ wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC), "BeeSting Alergy"
BeeSting_Alergy@aol.com> wrote:

MattB+ wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2014, Gary Roselles was stupid - again:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB+ <Trdell1234@gmail.com
wrote:

Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40
Years

Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....

Obama also. Jan 2009 to April 2011.

"On December 1, 2008, President-elect Obama announced that Robert
Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during
his >> administration"

It's easy to say, "good job on shaming Gary Roselles, yet again",
but this is a very easy exercise. GOOD JOB.

That alone should tell you something

Yes tells me you don't know many facts just rhetoric of the loony
left >> and racism.

I'm not sure where the racism is in Gary's stupid post, but he
remains USENET's 2nd most stupid poster this week.

IDIOT

Yep, that is Gary Roselles.

OK Hope this doesn't move me up in the ratings but who is in first
place?


You're not even in the running, MattB+... you never were.

3) Tom the Lesser - any leftist issue (no matter how stupid or how
insane), Tommy Boy is right on it and right in it.

2) Gary Roselles - Gary has been in the top three for years and years.

1) That Fat Butt-Ugly Lady-Fella "wy". It begins discussions with
no-nothing, extremely ignorant approaches. It knows little to nothing
about American politics or American culture.
Three examples: not understanding the difference between The University
of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and Mississippi State University. Second -
this one I really love... ragging on Megyn (note the correct spelling)
Kelly and never learning how she spells her name. Third - complete rank
igonrance regarding "race in America", yet yapping about it nonetheless.

Dishonorable mentions: urt-spawn of Iris, MattC-minus, AlleyCat, Siri
Cruise.

Just so you know.












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Post Link Posted: Thu Jan 09 2014 3:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years.... Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 12:52:04 +0000 (UTC), "BeeSting Alergy"
<BeeSting_Alergy> wrote:


Quote:
MattB+ wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC), "BeeSting Alergy"
BeeSting_Alergy@aol.com> wrote:

MattB+ wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2014, Gary Roselles was stupid - again:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB+ <Trdell1234@gmail.com
wrote:

Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40
Years

Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....

Obama also. Jan 2009 to April 2011.

"On December 1, 2008, President-elect Obama announced that Robert
Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during
his >> administration"

It's easy to say, "good job on shaming Gary Roselles, yet again",
but this is a very easy exercise. GOOD JOB.

That alone should tell you something

Yes tells me you don't know many facts just rhetoric of the loony
left >> and racism.

I'm not sure where the racism is in Gary's stupid post, but he
remains USENET's 2nd most stupid poster this week.

IDIOT

Yep, that is Gary Roselles.

OK Hope this doesn't move me up in the ratings but who is in first
place?

You're not even in the running, MattB+... you never were.

3) Tom the Lesser - any leftist issue (no matter how stupid or how
insane), Tommy Boy is right on it and right in it.

2) Gary Roselles - Gary has been in the top three for years and years.

1) That Fat Butt-Ugly Lady-Fella "wy". It begins discussions with
no-nothing, extremely ignorant approaches. It knows little to nothing
about American politics or American culture.
Three examples: not understanding the difference between The University
of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and Mississippi State University. Second -
this one I really love... ragging on Megyn (note the correct spelling)
Kelly and never learning how she spells her name. Third - complete rank
igonrance regarding "race in America", yet yapping about it nonetheless.

Dishonorable mentions: urt-spawn of Iris, MattC-minus, AlleyCat, Siri
Cruise.

Just so you know.


I agree mostly. I ignore WY for the most part. Reply to Gary and
Daryl for fun. They lie and dig themselves in deeper and deeper. Also
make worthless threats. Daryl even tried claiming he was conservative
LOL












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Post subject: Re: Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40 Years.... Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better
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"BeeSting Alergy" <BeeSting_Alergy> wrote in message
news:ht0iwubks1axqzm00i@news.eternal-september.org...

Quote:
MattB+ wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC), "BeeSting Alergy"
BeeSting_Alergy@aol.com> wrote:

MattB+ wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2014, Gary Roselles was stupid - again:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:34:51 -0800, MattB+ <Trdell1234@gmail.com
wrote:

Robert Gates Thinks Joe Biden Hasn't Stopped Being Wrong for 40
Years

Then again---Gates is a Bush appointee....

Obama also. Jan 2009 to April 2011.

"On December 1, 2008, President-elect Obama announced that Robert
Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during
his >> administration"

It's easy to say, "good job on shaming Gary Roselles, yet again",
but this is a very easy exercise. GOOD JOB.

That alone should tell you something

Yes tells me you don't know many facts just rhetoric of the loony
left >> and racism.

I'm not sure where the racism is in Gary's stupid post, but he
remains USENET's 2nd most stupid poster this week.

IDIOT

Yep, that is Gary Roselles.

OK Hope this doesn't move me up in the ratings but who is in first
place?

You're not even in the running, MattB+... you never were.

3) Tom the Lesser - any leftist issue (no matter how stupid or how
insane), Tommy Boy is right on it and right in it.

2) Gary Roselles - Gary has been in the top three for years and years.

1) That Fat Butt-Ugly Lady-Fella "wy". It begins discussions with
no-nothing, extremely ignorant approaches. It knows little to nothing
about American politics or American culture.
Three examples: not understanding the difference between The University
of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and Mississippi State University. Second -
this one I really love... ragging on Megyn (note the correct spelling)
Kelly and never learning how she spells her name. Third - complete rank
igonrance regarding "race in America", yet yapping about it nonetheless.

Dishonorable mentions: urt-spawn of Iris, MattC-minus, AlleyCat, Siri
Cruise.


Just damn, I wasn't even considered Sad
try again next week I guess.



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