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Post Link Posted: Sun Nov 24 2013 11:28 am
Post subject: Obama Victory In Iran, GOP On Suicide Watch
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|
| Iran and six world powers reached a deal early Sunday that
| would halt parts of Iran's nuclear program in exchange for
| what was described by the Obama administration as "modest
| relief" from international sanctions.
|
| Obama, speaking from the White House while Secretary of
| State John Kerry helped ink the agreement in Geneva, called
| it a "first step toward a comprehensive solution."
| ...
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--bks





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Post Link Posted: Sun Nov 24 2013 3:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Obama Victory In Iran, GOP On Suicide Watch
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On 24 Nov 2013 09:28:29 -0500, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:


Quote:
|
| Iran and six world powers reached a deal early Sunday that
| would halt parts of Iran's nuclear program in exchange for
| what was described by the Obama administration as "modest
| relief" from international sanctions.
|
| Obama, speaking from the White House while Secretary of
| State John Kerry helped ink the agreement in Geneva, called
| it a "first step toward a comprehensive solution."
| ...
www.foxnews..../w....rogram/

--bks



The neocons are apoplectic because they won't get the war with Iran
they have dreamed of for 20 years.












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Post Link Posted: Mon Nov 25 2013 12:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Obama Victory In Iran, GOP On Suicide Watch
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"Victory" ???

All he's done is give them the extra time
to turn some of their secretly-refined
uraniium into bomb cores. About the
only thing we know for sure about Irans
nuke program is that they have secret
facilities hidden all over the place, even
under major cities. By now they likely
have 100kg or more of weapons-grade
uranium - enough for half a dozen
warheads of various sizes.

It's another victory for "appearances" ...
giving the gullible the impression that
they're "doing something".

Israel and Saudi sure as hell know better.

But, IMHO, our Powers That Be actually
WANT Iran to have some nukes. Why ?
Because it'll create a mini-"Cold War"
that'll justify massive new military spending
on weapons and counter-weapons - thus
greatly enriching the Powers That Be. Iraq
and Afghnistan are about used up ... so
replacement "threats" are required.

In short we're being PLAYED, like usual.












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Post Link Posted: Mon Nov 25 2013 1:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Obama Victory In Iran, GOP On Suicide Watch
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Mr. B1ack <nowhere> wrote:

Quote:
"Victory" ???

All he's done is give them the extra time
to turn some of their secretly-refined
uraniium into bomb cores. About the
only thing we know for sure about Irans
nuke program is that they have secret
facilities hidden all over the place, even
under major cities. By now they likely
have 100kg or more of weapons-grade
uranium - enough for half a dozen
warheads of various sizes.

It's another victory for "appearances" ...
giving the gullible the impression that
they're "doing something".

Israel and Saudi sure as hell know better.

But, IMHO, our Powers That Be actually
WANT Iran to have some nukes. Why ?
Because it'll create a mini-"Cold War"
that'll justify massive new military spending
on weapons and counter-weapons - thus
greatly enriching the Powers That Be. Iraq
and Afghnistan are about used up ... so
replacement "threats" are required.

In short we're being PLAYED, like usual


No sane person wants to see a nuclear arms race in the middle east.
As the president said yesterday, this is just a "first step".
The Iranians want the sanctions lifted. They showd that in the last
election. This agreement is just an opening round for more negotians that
will lift the sanctions. The Iranians will pay any price. They caved
because they had to. I predicted this a year ago.

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Post Link Posted: Mon Nov 25 2013 11:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Obama Victory In Iran, GOP On Suicide Watch
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On 25 Nov 2013 16:27:32 GMT, dzweibach@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:


Quote:
Mr. B1ack <nowhere> wrote:
"Victory" ???

All he's done is give them the extra time
to turn some of their secretly-refined
uraniium into bomb cores. About the
only thing we know for sure about Irans
nuke program is that they have secret
facilities hidden all over the place, even
under major cities. By now they likely
have 100kg or more of weapons-grade
uranium - enough for half a dozen
warheads of various sizes.

It's another victory for "appearances" ...
giving the gullible the impression that
they're "doing something".

Israel and Saudi sure as hell know better.

But, IMHO, our Powers That Be actually
WANT Iran to have some nukes. Why ?
Because it'll create a mini-"Cold War"
that'll justify massive new military spending
on weapons and counter-weapons - thus
greatly enriching the Powers That Be. Iraq
and Afghnistan are about used up ... so
replacement "threats" are required.

In short we're being PLAYED, like usual

No sane person wants to see a nuclear arms race in the middle east.



But very GREEDY people would .... people perfectly
placed to profit from fear and anger. The global M-I-C,
certain banking interests, many politicians, even the
news people.



Quote:
As the president said yesterday, this is just a "first step".


Nope. Last step ... maybe even not a step at all.
It's all for show. I'm reminded of Reagan blustering
against Iran - while doing arms deals with them
behind the curtain. The sooner you realize it's
mostly just a show to herd the sheeple in profitible
directions the better it'll be for you. Public politics
and realpolitik have very little to do with each other.


Quote:
The Iranians want the sanctions lifted. They showd that in the last
election.


Nobody cares. The figureheads changed because it'd
defuse the neo-revolutionary movement. The same
hard-assed ayatollahs still call the shots. They just
herded their sheeple in a new, safer, direction.


Quote:
This agreement is just an opening round for more negotians that
will lift the sanctions. The Iranians will pay any price. They caved
because they had to. I predicted this a year ago.


There's little real "democracy" in the west ... do you
ACTUALLY imagine there's ANY in Iran ???

The Ayatollas (rightly) feel perpetually threatened by the
western powers, who owned and operated Iran for their
own profit well within living memory. They know the ONLY
real deterrent against western military meddling is The Bomb.
So, they're gonna HAVE some. Don't need lots ... a mere
handfull will do. Then they'd be untouchable.

And the western - and eastern - arms dealers will make
out like the bandits they are.












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Post Link Posted: Mon Dec 09 2013 6:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Obama Victory In Iran, GOP On Suicide Watch
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In article <l6t2ed>,
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:


Quote:
|
| Iran and six world powers reached a deal early Sunday that
| would halt parts of Iran's nuclear program in exchange for
| what was described by the Obama administration as "modest
| relief" from international sanctions.
|
| Obama, speaking from the White House while Secretary of
| State John Kerry helped ink the agreement in Geneva, called
| it a "first step toward a comprehensive solution."
| ...
www.foxnews..../w....r-progr
am/


Sorta like Neville Chamberlain's "victory" at Munich.


snicker












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