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Post Link Posted: Sat Jun 16 2007 11:36 am
Post subject: PICS - Some pictures of the rusted 1957 Belvedere from Tulsa
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Here are some high resolution pictures from of the rusted 1957 Plymouth Belvedere that was sealed in a vault back in 1957 that they dug up yesterday

"Tonight was the big unearthing and unveiling of the 1957 Chrysler Belvedere that was buried in front of the courthouse in downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma 50 years ago. After the car's underground tomb was opened earlier in the week and it was discovered filled with water, no one was sure what condition "Mrs. Belvedere" would be in. Brenton Burke, a friend of Autoblog, was present at the unveiling and filed this report.

"Three men from OSU's automotive school pulled the cover back and there she sat. Mrs. Belvedere was in ruins. Just destroyed... I was totally bummed and the old people around me really took it hard... They then continued to show flicks of interviews with people who watched the event, while Boyd et. al. tried to open the various compartments. They succeeded with the trunk and hood, but were having difficulties opening the side doors. In the trunk was some fun stuff. They had put the gas in glass jugs, then placed those in steel containers. There was a six pack of beer and some other destroyed memorabilia. The beer was still in tact! They opened the hood and removed the plastic cover that disintegrated over it, and showed us the mold/algae covered engine. At that point, there was nothing much left of the car.

They proceeded to cut open the big steel boiler that doubled as the real time capsule. It was perfect. They cut it open and pulled out an American Flag that looked brand new. Awesome! There were postcards, letters from the school districts, etc. Most of the stuff was random memorabilia that the people of Tulsa threw in, last minute, and un-documented."

The local news in Tulsa also reported that the car's keys were rusted inside the ignition. Any hope the car could be started was out of the question, as the engine is apparently now one giant oxidized block of metal.

Yet hope springs eternal. As Brent mentioned, Boyd Coddington was present in Tulsa as the car was revealed. Hemmings has reported that the custom car builder will be restoring the '57 Belvedere to its original condition. It's also understood that the car will eventually be given away to the person who correctly guessed what the population of Tulsa would be in 2007 some 50 years ago. The guesses were buried in the time capsule and reportedly survived intact.

All this nostalgia kind of got us wondering what 2007 model year car we'd bury if given the opportunity. A Mustang? A Prius? After seeing what 50 years of flooding can do to a car, perhaps the Aquada would be more appropriate.

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UPDATED INFORMATION

We spoke to Paula Hale with the Centennial Commission today and she provided some updated information on the car

1. The chrome on the bumper IS NOT chrome but stainless steel. There apparently was a shortage of the material back in 1957 to make chrome bumpers for the 1957 Belvedere so Plymouth used Stainless Steel instead. This is why it was cleaned up so nice

2. The car will be on display through the weekend at East Tulsa Dodge at 46th and Memorial until the end of the weekend. It will then go into storage until it is either claimed by the contest winner or the 5 year unclaimed property period passes

3. The material from the time capsule is the property of teh Tulsa Historical Society and will be displayed there until the end of the year

4. We asked about why the vault leaked. Ms. Hale said her personal opinion was that when the annex to the court house was built about 20 years ago, they allowed the heavy equipment to drive over the vault area and it was probably cracked at that time.

5. The county has said that nothing else is to be placed in the vault and had drilled holes in the bottom for the water to drain and then filled it in. Someone has placed a wreath of yellow roses on top of the vault area.

6. The winner of the contest will be announced at a press conference at 12pm this Friday

7. The Plymouth Prowler that was buried in 1998 is actually not underground with the exception of about a foot of it. There are multiple layers to the chamber and argon gas is pumped in periodically through gas lines. The Prowler is scheduled to be taken out of it's vault in 2048.

8. Experts that have accessed the 1957 Belvedere have stated that the car will continue to deteriorate. As it stands now, the parties involved cannot due anything to the car to preserve it's condition or restore it due to legal matters regarding the owner (the winner of the contest or their heir.) If the owner is not located, they still cannot do anything to the car for at least 5 years when the unclaimed property period will have elapsed.

9. There was a plan in place in case the vault "had" leaked. They thought this might have been a possibility.

10. The car was in no condition whatsoever that would even have allowed an attempt for it to be started.












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UPDATED INFORMATION

BURIED BELVEDERE WINNER ANNOUNCED
After being removed from its underground vault after 50 years and subsequently unveiled to a crowd of thousands last week, the 1957 Plymouth “Miss Belvedere” finally has its first owner.

With a guess of 384,743, R.E. Humbertson was declared the winner of the car at a news conference held earlier this afternoon at East Tulsa Dodge. Born in July of 1921, Humbertson (or his or her closest living relative) will have five years to claim the vehicle before it becomes the property of the Tulsa Historical Society.

Tulsarama co-chair Sharon King Davis said she is excited to fulfill the vision of the original Tulsarama organizers.

“Now that Miss Belvedere finally has her owner, the vision that started in 1957 has officially reached its completion,” King Davis said. “We know that the owner will treat her with the respect she deserves, as she stands as a symbol of the spirit of Tulsa.”

The process of awarding the car to a lucky Tulsan was started in 1957, when citizens were asked to guess what the population of Tulsa would be in 2007, with the person who guessed the closest being given ownership.

The guesses were found written on postcards in the time capsule buried with the Belvedere, rather than on microfilm as originally thought. The population guesses ranged from zero (4 guesses) to 1-2 Billion (5 guesses). The dates of birth of the entrants ranged from 1885 to 1957.

Two entries even listed their birthplace as Indian Territory.
Humbertson will also receive a $100 savings bond which was buried with the car. The bond is estimated to have matured to $700 over the past 50 years.



Population Guesses Facts

• Several people listed their birth place as "Indian territory"

• One person typed a short sci-fi essay and listed their address as Jupiter Excursions, Inc.

• Several guesses, including the winner, had comma separators in wrong places

• The low estimate was zero (4 guesses), the highest was 1-2 billion (5 guesses). A lot of people were reasonaby in the ballpark.

• Handwriting was sometimes difficult to read and the vast majority of people used it instead of printing in block letters

• 96 entries used names beginning with "Mrs." followed by the husband's name

• Tulsa did not have its current zip codes, but instead the addressed used Tulsa 5, Tulsa 6, etc.

• There were several family entries; some guesses designated up to 3 heirs

• There was an entry by the editor of Tulsa County News

• There was a page with guesses by school-age children (12-13 years old)

• The dates of birth range from 1888 to 1957

• The state of birth had 398 Oklahoma, 2 Canada, 1 Latvia, 302 from 32 other states, 109 not available



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UPDATE
TULSA, Okla. -- The winner of a rusted 1957 Plymouth Belvedere that was unearthed last week from a leaky vault in Tulsa died in 1979, and the ownership of the car will pass to his closest living relatives.

When the car was buried in 1957, more than 800 people submitted guesses on what Tulsa's population _ which was around 250,000 in 1957 _ would be in 2007. Guesses ranged from zero to 2 billion, but Raymond E. Humbertson's guess of 384,743 was only slightly off the official U.S. Census count of 382,457.

Tulsa officials announced Friday that Humbertson had won the two-door hardtop Belvedere that drew international attention when it was pulled from the vault on June 15.

His nephew, Donald Humbertson of Woodbridge, Va., said that Raymond Humbertson died of cancer at age 57 and his wife, Margaret Humbertson, died in 1988. Raymond and Margaret Humbertson had no children, their nephew said.

Raymond Humbertson's closest living relatives are two elderly sisters in Maryland, Donald Humbertson said.

The Oklahoma Centennial Commission will have a trust company speak with the Humbertson family about the family's wishes for the car, centennial events co-chairwoman Sharon King Davis said Saturday.

Donald Humbertson said that his uncle was a career Marine and a Korean War veteran who spent his final years as an administrator at a community college in northern Virginia.

"He was just sort of a happy-go-lucky guy," Donald Humbertson said.

The family coincidentally had a reunion planned for Saturday to unveil a monument in a cemetery in Cumberland, W.Va.

"This will probably give us something to talk about," said Dina Lawyer, Raymond Humbertson's grandniece.

Had it been in good condition when it was lifted from its vault under the lawn of the Tulsa County Courthouse, the gold-and-white Belvedere could have been worth as much as $50,000, but because of massive water damage, its value now mostly is historical.

The winner of the car also will receive a $100 savings bond buried with it.












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UPDATE

We spoke to Ms. Paula Hale with the Centennial Commission today and she provided the following information as to the status of the car and the contest

1. The winner of the car died before his wife so there is an issue of who is the direct heir. They are trying to determine if his wife (she has passed away as well) had a will and if indeed the car and money is due to go to her heir's.

2. Mr. Humbertson's family is now attempting to gather death certificates and wills. Due to the time that has passed they are having trouble gathering all of this information

3. The family of Mr. Humbertson's wife has not been informed of anything at this point and they have not been in contact with anyone up to this point.

4. The 1957 Plymouth Belvedere is now in storage and protected. The car is decaying according to Ms. Hale. She explained it as you should imagine a pair of shoes that have been wet for a long time. When you 1st take them out of the water, they are supple and flexible but as they dry out they become brittle and cracked. Apparently the same thing is happening with the vehicle. Ms. Hale stated that they are in a sort of a "pickle" as they cannot do anything to the car as the whole situation is in "Limbo" until the true heir's of Mr. or Mrs. Humbertson are determined. There are issues of they (The Centennial Commission) cannot do anything to the car as they are not the legal owner.












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Some new updated information


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by Polara on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:23 pm
HI Guys

If I may elaborate on a few things. I'm doing this for Dwight without, hopefully, ruffling any feathers

I have seen the car several times, as recently as last week. It is what you see. Some items are OK, some are extensively damaged, but with some bits and pieces, this car, very possibly, will run and roll under it's own power and the majority of it's original parts. The car is to go on world tour. It will definitely need rear springs. The frame may or may not be capable of handling the car moving under it's own steam. The transmission will have to have all it's guts replaced, we're pretty sure, but it's not that far yet. There is a plan to get a new front seat frame for moving purposes.

OK One at a time
Cement blocks. Better than having the frame on the floor. The rear springs are gone. A customized lift is being installed to lift the car more securely. It's there, but not installed yet.

Cement. . . I suspect that stuff is mixed with mortor and lime which erroaded from the vault. It feels like that. That stuff is HARD! Dwight has been working ona gentle formula to wash it away. I think he intends to use it like he plans with the Ultra one with a gentle shower. First order of business is to disolve that without damaging anything else, or the paint.

Allot of the "Chrome" is stainless steel. So there would be no damage. The clips which hold it on are probably gone. . . the chrome on the bumpers is still mostly there, but there are areas it is not.

Some of the items like the hood latch and trunk latch have been soaked in U1 already to see what is going to happen. They are now functioning. The door latches are a problem. . . I have come up with a solution when he is ready.

I know you are all excited and want more info. . . I'll ask Dwight if it's OK to say more. But at least you know there is something happening and nothing wrong. This is like pulling the Titantic from the bottom. A Titantic with Tires. Patience my rusty friends

Steve



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by carg ee on Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:19 pm
Ok, well after e-mailing again Monday or Tuesday I don't remember I heard back from Dwight, with a one sentence response that they are working slow to undo the 50 years of damage by the leaky vault, and he also sent me the same picture that was posted here 2 months ago. I replied to his e-mail saying that it would be nice to have some kind of updates once a week or every two weeks, no matter what little progress was being made. I told him I hoped to see a progress report in a week. So we will see what happens.

Hopefully we will start to see some progress....if not I suggest we all start sending e-mails and calling.

Here are the e-mails...

Dwight,

I am aware of the damage the car has suffered, I followed the story leading up to and when the car was dug up.
This is the same picture that someone else posted 3 months ago. What progress has been made in the past 3 months?
The thing of it is, your company decided to take on this project and decided to come up with a website for it, now the problem is, there have been no updates in MONTHS.
It doesn't seem unreasonable to give a status update every 1-2 weeks, no matter how little progress has been made, and including a new picture every couple of weeks with the progress, no matter how little to at least show that something is being done. As far as anyone can tell nothing is being done because no one at Ultra One is talking.

With regular updates you won't have people e-mailing/calling the company asking about what's going on.

Thanks for your time! I hope to see some kind of status report with a new picture or two on the website in the next week.

Dwight Foster wrote:
We are moving slow to safely remove the fifty years a damage caused by the
leaky vault
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davis"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: Miss Belvedere


> Monday 28 April 2008 2:15:09 PM
>
> Jared Davis
>
> I am e-mailing again requesting information on Miss Belvedere. What
> progress is being made? When can we expect to see pictures?
>
> Thank you



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Miss Belvedere is officially handed over to the heirs of R.E. Humbertson today. She will be transportated to Hackettstown NJ the home of the Worlds SafestRustRemover and Ultra ONE cleaners for “Arrested Deterioration”



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Tulsarama: Miss Belvedere to Shine Once Again
A fter spending nearly 50 years quietly rusting beneath the Tulsa County Courthouse lawn, the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere affectionately known as “Miss Belvedere,” may soon be returned to her former glory.

According to the Ultra One Corporation Web site, the company, which developed the Safest Rust Remover products has been enlisted to chemically de-rust and preserve what has become one of the world’s most famous “finned” Mopars in the world.


Robert Carney of Frederick, MD, nephew of the car’s apparent winner, is expected to take possession of the car following an official presentation ceremony scheduled for Sept. 14 in Tulsa.

Carney told the Tulsa World newspaper last week that an agreement has been worked out with the Ultra One Corp. to stabilize the 50-year-old automobile, once ownership has been confirmed.

"Once we get it derusted, we think it'll run," Carney told the Tulsa newspaper. "We really think it will."


Ultra One Corp. spokesman Dwight Foster said he expects it will take about 6 months to complete the de-rusting process of the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere along with all the other artifacts that were placed in the trunk such as the case of Schlitz beer cans and other items.

According to Carney, the rust needs to be neutralized to preserve the Belvedere, which apparently spent a good portion of the past half-century as much underwater as underground.

"We're not going to take it apart and try to restore it," he said.

"Ideally, what we'd like to see is that when it's in pretty good shape, the car would go back to Tulsa for another unveiling," Carney said.


However, according to officials in Tulsa, Carney has yet to be verified as the winner of the car. Officials state that there is still some paperwork that needs to be completed before the car’s new owner will be verified.

Carney's aunt, 93-year-old Catherine Humbertson Johnson of Bowling Green, Md., is the oldest sister of Raymond Humbertson, who submitted the apparent winning entry in a 1957 contest shortly before the Plymouth Belvedere was buried at the Tulsa County Courthouse.

Humbertson died in 1979. He and his wife, Margaret, who died in 1988, had no children.

According to the Ultra One Web site, future plans for Miss Belvedere beyond her second Tulsa Oklahoma unveiling include touring around the USA for special events for a few months and then probably finding her way to the Barrett-Jackson auction block in Scottsdale in January 2009 before possibly heading to an auto museum for the rest of her life.




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Miss Belvedere To Be De-Rusted

Plans have been announced concerning the fate of the internationally famous 1957 Plymouth Belvedere that was unearthed in Tulsa. Miss Belvedere, as she is now known, will be completely de-rusted. There are no plans to restore Miss Belvedere. Instead, the car will be dipped by Ultra One in Hackettstown, New Jersey, using its Safest Rust Remover system. As a former ad-man, I have the admire the marketing genius behind Ultra One’s involvement in getting the car cleaned up.

As far as the fate of the car goes, it is my opinion that preservation and not the full restoration of Miss Belvedere is the right way to go. If the owner were to fully restore the car, it would become just another high-buck restoration that happened to have spent a few decades in a hole.

“We will not be restoring the car, but preserving her for the future. We have to stop the rust because if nothing is done, this car will be a dust in two years. The main purpose is to try to totally stabilize it by putting a clear coat on it so it won’t rust again,” said Dwight Foster of Ultra One.

The preserved car will be unveiled in Tulsa next year.




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Miss Belvedere is the nickname given to a new 1957 Plymouth Belvedere sport coupe sealed in a 50-year time capsule and finally unearthed on June 14, 2007. It was chosen primarily for its Virgil Exner styling as a way of showing the people of 2007 the good taste and forward thinking of the people of 1957.

The car, with only four miles on the odometer, was sealed in an underground concrete vault as part of the festivities of the US state of Oklahoma's 100th Anniversary, celebrated near downtown Tulsa. It was unearthed June 14, 2007 during the state's centennial celebration and was publicly unveiled on June 15.[1] In line with the Cold War realities of late 1950s America, the concrete enclosure was advertised as having been built to withstand a nuclear attack.[2] The concrete enclosure, however, was not airtight and allowed water to leak in, which caused significant damage to the vehicle.[3]

Vehicle customizer Boyd Coddington and his team volunteered to start the car, once un-buried. That, however, proved impossible due to the car's condition. While items buried with the vehicle in their own protective vaults emerged unscathed, anything buried unprotected in the vehicle deteriorated completely. Among the items recovered from the trunk were a case of Schlitz beer and a large can of gasoline, intended to be used to start the car in 2007 if gasoline was no longer the fuel of choice for motor vehicles.

The car was intended to be a prize to be awarded upon the vehicle's unearthing to the individual or his/her descendents who would come nearest to guessing Tulsa's population in 2007. The winning entrant, one Raymond Humbertson, guessed 384,743 vs. the actual figure of 382,457. However, Mr. Humbertson died in 1979 and now only distant relatives remain[4].

In November 2007, Humberton's relatives shipped the car to the New Jersey facilities of Ultra One, a restoration firm whose specialty product is a de-rusting solution which is designed to remove only rust while leaving the underlying metal, paint and decals intact. It is estimated that the stabilization project would take roughly six months or perhaps longer given the difficulty of removing the mix of cosmoline and mud which caked on the car; there are no plans to disassemble and restore the vehicle. There is, however, discussion regarding the return of the driveline and electrical system to operating condition.



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Press Release Miss Belvedere To Be Examined Thursday

By World Staff
10/31/2007 2:25 PM

Representatives of the winner of Tulsa's buried 1957 Plymouth Belvedere will be in town Thursday to inspect the car, according to the organization that excavated it in June.

Tulsarama said a press conference is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. Thursday with Robert Carney and Dwight Foster.

Carney is the son and nephew of two elderly sisters that Tulsarama organizers believe are the rightful claimants to the Belvedere that was dug up from the county courthouse lawn.

Foster is a director of Ultra One, a New Jersey firm that makes an acid-free rust remover. Carney and Ultra One hope to preserve the Belvedere by arresting the oxidation process. Press Release Miss Belvedere is coming to Ultra ONE in NJ

Friday October 19, 2007
Tulsa, Oklahoma

Donald E. Walker, Co Chair for the Oklahoma Tulsarama announced that Ms Catherine Humbertson Johnson is now the rightful sole owner of Miss Belvedere after the exhaustive legal process was completed to verify her as the winner of 1957 Plymouth Belvedere. Robert Carney Nephew Of Ms Catherine Humbertson Johnson and Mary Kesner Niece of Catherine will act on her behalf and become the custodians for Miss Belvedere. Robert Carney has made an arrangement with Ultra ONE SafestRustRemover in Hackettstown to bring the Miss Belvedere To New Jersey to be cleaned and de-rusted for future preservation.


Very interesting here that Robert Carney (the um ...... NEPHEW) of this 90 year old + woman (haven't heard much mention of Mary Kesner) is going to be acting on HER BEHALF?? Just wonder just how much on HER BEHALF it actually is ... or could it possible be HIS BEHALF hmmmmm perhaps someone should investigate that further.


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Tulsa Oklahoma's Famous Miss Belvedere Fifty-Year Old time Capsule will shine once again!

Hackettstown New Jersey July 20, 2007 Press Release

Tulsa Oklahoma's 1957 Plymouth Belvedere affectionately Known as Miss Belvedere is on her way to a new chemical preservation treatment to preserve her history for many future generations to come and enjoy her historical history and journey.

Robert Carney of Frederick, MD present impending custodian of Miss Belvedere who will accept the keys to Miss Belvedere in a official presentation ceremony on September 14th 2007 in Tulsa Oklahoma has today announced his future vision and plans for the once buried famous Time capsule 1957 Plymouth Belvedere today.

Robert Carney announced today that he has entered into an agreement with Ultra One Corporation of Hackettstown, New Jersey inventors of the Safest Rust Remover product to have Miss Belvedere Chemically de-rusted and preserved with their proprietary Safest Rust Remover process.

Dwight Foster representative will receive the 1957 Plymouth sometime shortly after Robert Carney takes possession the 1957 Plymouth at the September 14th 2007 ceremony.

Dwight Foster said he expects it to take about 6 months to complete the de-rusting process of all of the rust off of the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere along with all the other artifacts that were placed in the trunk such as the case of Schlitz beer cans and other items for future display.

Ultra One Corporation's Dwight Foster said they will also use the Ultra One environmentally safe Hi -Performance Ultra One heavy duty and G-5 degreaser products that they invented to clean the world famous Holland and Lincoln tunnel to clean up Miss belvedere prior to her de-rusting procedure that awaits her.

This past March 2007 the Ultra One degreasers products out preformed the best selling Simple Green cleaner and many other well known cleaning products by the largest overall performance score ever recorded recently when conducted by the WD-40 company in a independent lab test studies that were performed by the WD-40 company while researching and evaluating cleaners to market to the consumer market under there own brand name in the near future.

Robert Carney plans to take Miss Belvedere back to Tulsa for a second unveiling in the spring of 2008 for all to see her in her entirely new preserved condition for future generations to enjoy. Robert Carney and Dwight foster feel confident that Miss belvedere's motor will be running and all her lights will be on and shining brightly at her debut.

Future plans for Miss Belvedere beyond her second Tulsa Oklahoma unveiling include touring around the USA for special events for a few months and then probably finding her way to the Barrett-Jackson auction block in Scottsdale in January 2009 and then headed to a great auto museum for the rest of her life..



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A New Jersey firm has agreed to try to clean up the formerly buried 1957 Belvedere.


The once-buried Belvedere may be going on a road trip.

A nephew of the car's apparent winner said Wednesday that an agreement has been worked out with a New Jersey firm to stabilize the 50-year-old automobile once ownership has been confirmed.

"Once we get it derusted, we think it'll run," said Bob Carney of Fredericksburg, Md. "We really think it will."

Carney's aunt, 93-year-old Catherine Humbertson Johnson of Bowling Green, Md., is the oldest sister of Raymond Humbertson, who submitted the apparent winning entry in a 1957 contest shortly before the Plymouth Belvedere was buried at the Tulsa County Courthouse.

Oddly, Humbertson doesn't seem to have ever lived in Tulsa or even Oklahoma. His family speculates he was passing through on his way from the West Coast to Maryland.

Humbertson died in 1979. He and his wife, Margaret, who died in 1988, had no children.

Carney said Ultra One Corp. of Hackettstown, N.J., has agreed to take the car to its headquarters for treatment with its rust-removing products.

The company says it "developed and formulated the first non-acid Hi Performance tunnel cleaners" for use in tunnels linking New Jersey and Manhattan. Its rust remover, Ultra One says on its Web site, "is a breakthrough product that has changed the age-old problem of rust removal forever."


Carney said the rust needs to be neutralized to preserve the Belvedere, which apparently spent a good portion of the past half-century as much underwater as underground.

"We're not going to take it apart and try to restore it," he said.

"Ideally, what we'd like to see is that when it's in pretty good shape, the car would go back to Tulsa for another unveiling," Carney said.

Catherine Johnson, however, has not yet been verified as the winner.

Margaret Kobos of the Bank of Oklahoma trust department, which is handling the documentation, said Wednesday that most of the requested information has been received, but a few questions remain.

Arvest Bank President Don Walker, who is in charge of the transfer, said a holographic will left by Margaret Humbertson could complicate the process.

Raymond Humbertson apparently died without a will, and his effects passed to his widow. Margaret Humbertson left the bulk of her modest estate to two siblings, a nephew and her church.

Walker said that raises the question of whether her heirs have a claim to the car. He said, though, that none has come forward, and Carney said there is no disagreement in the family about the Belvedere going to his aunt.

"I'm pretty comfortable with turning the car over to them," Walker said. "The weird part is that he was not a Tulsa resident. I'd feel a little better if we knew for sure how he came to be in Tulsa."





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Rusted, busted, waterlogged and crud-encrusted, the Buried Belvedere rose from its resting place at the Tulsa County Courthouse two years ago this weekend.

It's still not exactly ready for the drag races, but at least some color has returned to its cheeks. Most of the mud and rust has been removed from its exterior, the wheels roll and the steering wheel steers.

On the other hand, the doors don't work, the engine is caked in red clay the consistency of concrete and the steel and sheet metal is so fragile that they have to be handled like rare pottery.

"For the most part," said Dwight Foster, the Hackettsville, N.J., businessman who has had, as he puts it, "custody" of the car since November 2007, "it's like working with papier-mache."

He continued: "Just as an example, rust had eaten completely through a torsion bar. A torsion bar is an inch or an inch and a quarter of solid steel."

Plans to transfer the car's chassis to a different frame have been abandoned because of its delicate condition, he said.

Still, there have been a few surprises. Rubber parts, Foster said, held up surprisingly well.

"The rubbers on the ball joints were

like they'd just come off the (assembly) line," he said. "The different components of the car, they're very unpredictable."

The 1957 Plymouth, brand spanking new, was buried as part of the festivities for the 50th anniversary of Oklahoma's statehood. It emerged a half-century later, in June 2007, looking like something that might have been driven by Cap'n Jack Sparrow.

The vault in which the car was placed, it turned out, held water in better than it kept water out. It had been flooded at some point and still contained more than a foot of water.

The Belvedere was a mess.

Originally gold and white, it emerged from hibernation a uniformly brownish-orange. The upholstery had dissolved. Moving parts were rusted solid. Only the chrome trim and, surprisingly, the tires survived in something like vintage condition.

Foster became involved after the car was awarded — if that is the right word — to the family of Raymond Humbertson, a Maryland man who never lived in Tulsa but for unexplained reasons entered a contest to win the Belvedere.

Foster's company makes an industrial-strength, acid-free, rust remover, and he is something of a car enthusiast. He worked out an agreement with the Humbertsons to get the car in presentable condition.

"It started out as a commercial interest," Foster says now, "but it become more of a personal interest."

Whether the car returns to Tulsa depends on several factors, not the least of which is the cost of transporting the old girl back. Foster said he still gets regular calls from Belvedere fans. He and the car were recently featured on the Hemings car collectors' Web site.

In the meantime, Foster said, he'll keep plugging away. "In the next week or so I'll be going through the back seat trying to get the trunk lid up," he said.

"This is a preservation effort, not a restoration. I'm trying to leave as much of the original as possible."


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